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Why is dunbar accused of treason in dances with wolves

2022.01.06 02:18




















He is pursued by Lieutenant Elgin, who wants to return him to the office. Elgin hears an aside comment from the sargeant who calls Fambrough "crazy", just before Fambrough raises the revolver to protect himself from Elgin. Elgin continues to carefully approach, but doesn't get there in time for the suicide which occurs on the parade ground.


Earlier script notes describe Fambrough as having "sad, swollen eyes. He is an army lifer passed over too many times for promotion and right now does not look like a well man" and, "Sweat has broken out all over him. His grooming is awful. His hands are trembling slightly. Something is very wrong with him. There is also emphasis about the childish flourishes during filling the form and the signing, with the giggling.


His death removes the last living person that would've known where Dunbar was heading, setting the stage for his having time to develop his relationship with the Sioux etc. Several aspects of the symptoms could also be from syphalis and opiat addiction which both were common in that time period.


The way I saw it, Fambrough was a sad little king of a sad little kingdom. He probably envisioned his work to be to bring civilization to the frontier, but the frontier kept moving west and he got left behind. When he encounters Dunbar, he is confronted with unbearable truths.


His frontier kingdom is an illusion, his power is meaningless, and before him stands a man on a true path to become a human being. Before him stands a king. Faced with this, Fambrough's life no longer has meaning. The author of the screen play was Michael Blake, who, two years earlier, at urging of Kevin Costner, wrote the novel Dances with Wolves.


I know the question is about the movie, but I thought I'd talk about the original novel. Lieutenant Dunbar had it pegged better than he knew, because this major had, for some time, clung to sanity by the slenderest thread, and the thread and finally snapped ten minutes before Lieutenant Dunbar walked into the office.


The major had sat calmly at his desk, hands clasped neatly in front of him, and forgotten his entire life. It had been a powerless life, fueled by the pitiful handouts that come to those who serve obediently but make no mark.


But all those years of being passed over, all the years of lonely bachelorhood, all the years of struggle with the bottle, had vanished as if by magic. The bitter grind of Major Fambrough's existence had been supplanted by an imminent and lovely event.


He would be crowned King of Fort Hays sometime before supper. A wagon loaded with goods of the realm leaves shortly. Find the peasant who calls himself Timmons and ride with him.


Old Major Fambrough, a midlevel administrator with a lackluster record, had gone off his rocker. He had stood one afternoon in the middle of the parade ground, jabbering incoherently about his kingdom and asking over and over for his crown. The poor fellow had been shipped east just a few days ago. In the novel the major is described twice as "the liquor-breathed major.


I believe that it was all of the above combined with absolutely no one to talk to. The enlisted soldiers are all described in ways as to indicate they are more or less illiterate.


Being the Camp Commander ensured that his lonely life would remain so. It's been years since I saw Dances With Wolves, but I remember my "only watches true stories" father-in-law asking me the same question about that scene. Pretty sure it's an indication that Dunbar has gotten so far away from the center of civilization that the only people crazy enough to go out this far are Or they go crazy from being out that far.


Also, the major is the only person who knows that Dunbar is out their by himself in the frontier. When he kills himself, Dunbar is truly alone.


Especially troubling since, if I remember correctly, Dunbar writes in his diary that he expecting back and up supplies to arrive at his one-man fort -- we the audience know there is no one coming. Fambrough is obviously an unstable alcoholic, I've always thought his reference to "The King is dead; long live the King" may mean that word has arrived of Lincoln's assassination.


If correct, then the war has been over several weeks. Well, the reason that it's in the storyline is because there were only two persons who knew where Dunbar was going. The Major who committed suicide and the guy with the mules who gave Dunbar a ride and later got killed by Indians. So that would explain how it was possible, that no one would know Dunbar was there - leaving him time to develope his relationship with the Souix.


However, it seems that Major Fambrough obviously had a neurolgial disease. But I think it was brought on by alcoholism. If you go back and see him in the begining When he opens it up So I would suspect he had a problem with alcoholism.


Nobody has referred to him wetting himself. This alludes to incontinence. If a man, especially a military man, has even a modicum of pride and dignity, this would be extremely difficult to come to terms with. Because of the incontinence, paranoia, and anxiety, followed by the suicide, my bet is on neurosyphilis - syphilis that is in the late or latent stages and is no longer physically visible but causes neurological symptoms similar to dementia.


People keep talking about alcohol and that may be true. But Laudnum, an old pain medicine came in small bottles at that time which was small enough to fit several spent ones in his drawer.


The opiate comment earlier made me think that lots of people drank with opiates back then because it intensifies the high but is a very bad combination for you for several reasons. Just a thought.


I found it interesting that this scene takes place so soon after Dunbar's suicide attempt. It felt like he had entered another world, and that if he stayed, this is what he had to look forward to.


In total more than 50 minutes of new footage have been added. The Sixous tribe was in danger because the US Cavalry thought Dunbar was a traitor and that he sided with the Sioux and Dunbar realizing that that he has become a fugitive and a deserter decided to leave them because as long as he stayed with them, he would continue to draw unwanted attention from the army and endanger the lives of the Sixous warriors and their wives and children.


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