What is the difference between admin and op

A general rule of thumb is to not give anyone else access to the console. But usually there are exceptions. Some servers will give some people access to remote restart applications and things like that. Runo New Member.

Generally, the people outside of the owner and his initial heirarchy who want admin and op access are the ones who shouldn't have admin or op access. This is an over-generalization, but people who value control and power are typically the type that don't know how to use it responsibly. Leadership is a burden, not a priveledge, and should be given to people who understand that.

Golrith Over-Achiever Trusted User. Nov 11, 3, 2, Runo said:. Jul 29, 2, 0 1. People donate because they like the server and want to or are purchasing something with the donation package. They are not donating for OP or admin status, unless you unwisely included that in the donation package. Hmm, do most people play on larger more public servers? I really was talking about 'hey lets the three of us all get a minecraft server and share the expense'. My buddy wanted everyone to chip in, but only wnats himself to be admin Even after I told him about it, backups are not being run.

Playing SMP is kind of a pain with this game. People complain about public servers all the time, and to share a server with a few other players is pretty cheap Id run my own server and advertise looking for a few players to join It sounds like you're having to deal with some insecurity among one of the members though that make it difficult.

I'm in the same boat as you with regards to public servers. Good server admins are hard to find, though Ive admittedly not tried very hard.

Henry Link Popular Member. Basically, I would agree with almost everyone here. People donate so they can play. They don't donate for operator powers.

And as a general rule if someone is asking for that power. The Minecraft Wiki is no longer considered as official by Microsoft and therefore several changes are required to be made, including to the wiki's logo. Please read this announcement for more information. Minecraft servers allow players to play online or via a local area network with other people.

Internally, the game runs a server for single-player games, this was done in order to make the single-player game experience consistent with the multiplayer experience and make it so that changes made to the game such as bug fixes apply to both single-player games and multiplayer games. Official server software is only available on Java Edition in the release state.

The Bedrock Edition server software is currently in Alpha. Multiple archetypes of Minecraft servers exist, distinguished by the unique gameplay features, rules, and societal structures that they implement. No two servers are the same, and frequently the line between archetypes is blurred or indistinguishable.

Many special types of servers rely on the use of map editors or the Creative game mode to build custom maps and the CraftBukkit server software to provide additional features. Some of these servers are more PVP orientated, some involve aspects of Survival, Creative and Adventure mode, some have a built-in economy, and some of them contain built-in minigames. There are many tools provided for players to be able to manage and host a server.

Note that servers have requirements in order to run efficiently and smoothly. See Tutorials Servers for tutorials on how to use these programs.

Servers are generally managed by administrators and operators. The administrator generally takes responsibility for the server.

It may be that the server is running from their machine, or that they simply have jurisdiction over a server. I would recommend you to better understand who you are recruiting before giving them the rights. As you have mentioned you already have a permissions plugin. I would also suggest that you create a tiered hierarchy. It should have similarities to the following model:. As the owner of the server, you have the final judgement of who should be an admin and receive such rights.

Down to your question for whether admins require OP. I would answer NO. Admins never need OP. OP grants them full autonomy of the server except in some cases such as PEX or GM, where permissions have to be granted specifically.

You should only grant the permissions they really require and if they bring up that they require more permissions, fully consider the repercussions of granting such commands and give them to the appropriate ranks. The following section shows how you can slowly move over to this system if you already have an existing hierarchy. First lay out a message of similar contents to the following:. It has come to my attention that many of the admins have been abusing the rights given to them.

It is detrimental to the community of the server and thus is unacceptable. Following this, create a tiered hierarchy that have only what they need to resolve issues. If a mod is there to provide basic support such as LogBlock query and not rollbacks, only give such permission and nothing more. If they complain, remind them the issue you have faced and they have to earn your trust to gain more power.

Pick out a few of the admins you think that does not abuse the power and give them the permission they required permissions. They would respond to issues brought up by the mods and perform the required tasks. In this hierarchy, The moderators have permissions to do basic checking and not any form of changing check for griefing and not rollback and respond to basic questions by the community.

If more pressing matters arise, it should be sent to the admins and they should follow up. As for the trial-mod, they would only answer questions and if something does actually fall into the category of admin, alert the mod or admin to settle the issue.

What is happening here is that you should only give permissions to those that you trust and even so only permissions that they require to solve the issue.

A mod should not have worldedit commands neither should admins have the permission to kill the server. The most critical of issues such as crashes should only be solved by you and a handful you really trust.

After reading your comments, I have seen that the reason you are reluctant to do so is due to the configuring of the permission nodes. I would give a suggestion as a person who once administered a server. You always want to do permissions even though its the hardest to do. It may be the most tedious, but when you set up a proper hierarchy, with inheritance and the such, not much is really needed in there.

After considering everything. I did not have much in my permissions of the admin as most of it is inherited from the moderator. The tediousness of configuring the permissions actually results in an amazing result and reduces complains from the user of abused commands. Spend 2 hours sitting down and do the configs would not hurt. After that you can relax from the quietness of having issues solved by admins and no complains from the users.

By giving OP, you give them your server. If they world edit away the whole map as has happened before because someone I trust forgot to move a corner of the selection and deleted the whole map, crashing the server in the process you are toast. You may still have control over the machine but your community is gone. Not necessarily. If you use a plugins like Group Manager - Essentials.