Scientology what is the hole
Yes, if this list of names could be given to the authorities and told that they are all elder and are held prisoner there, maybe there would be a raid on the place and people would be freed.
What a powerful video it would be if all these people got together and told their stories. What an impact it would make. Maybe we could have our own version of Squirrel Busters who were not bad like they were, but who went, two at a time, to the homes of the few who are out but not talking.
They could have a calm conversation persuading them to speak out and that any Non Disclosure Agreement they signed is not enforceable, and that they owe it to the prisoners of the hole to speak out. Mike, is Heber still in? He was a good guy. Or something like that. That is a lot of people to be in the secret prison? It only takes one prisoner to sign the complaint and Miscavige would get the Raniere treatment.
The following point has been explained many times in this blog. If you will just sign the following complaint, we will be able to put him away for the rest of his life. Most people are shocked to learn that almost none of the people locked up in The Hole will agree to sign any complaint. No one has forced us to be here. We are all free to leave any time we want. Most people who read this for the first time are shocked because they do not understand the incredible power of brainwashing.
Not the least is so they can understand the power of brainwashing. What a filthy scam. Could you ever believe that people will not only go along with their own imprisonment but actually defend the people who are confining and often torturing them? But if you look through past editions of this blog, you will see many examples where this phenomena is explained. LRH may have been a thoroughly despecible bastard and cult leaders like him may well deserve to spend the rest of their lives behind bars.
But they surely are not stupid. They have these scams worked out really well. You must admit they have things pretty well figured out. I wish they would raid it and see what happens. The women from FLDS did just that. I am interested in the study of cults as Im sure you guys are all aware , and the FLDS is, in many ways, a cult more than a sect. That statement told me a lot about the thinking of these people. She had spent her entire life believing that Jeffs was the prophet, and the thought that it was a a lie was something she would NEVER be able to accept.
It would mean that she has been living a complete lie and that every thing she had believed in and worked for was a lie. That type of psychic injury cannot be sustained by some people- they would be unable to handle it. Like I said- it takes someone VERY strong to be able to completely dismiss a belief system that they have invested a lifetime to. Skyler, good points. The question is, what do society and the law do to address the issues, and abuses? Stockholm Syndrome is another parallel of sorts:.
Amazing that all those people allowed one person to subject them to that. Boggles the mind. I nut-job like DM cannot function without it.
Are the boxes that are The Hole co-Ed and divided inside? Thanks Mike. Wake up people! You can get out. DM will never let you out. Hard to believe, really. I used to know some of them and I remember they were kind, dedicated and it was nice to share some time with them.
Shows how scared Miscavige is of you all. Truly barbaric. That is astonishing. That is horrible. Leah did a missing person report for Shelly. Or a APS report so that a welfare check can be done on these people if you know where they are? This is against the law right. WE have to advocate for them. We have to report it. To the FBI. Kidnapping and holding a person against their will is a federal crime punishable by years in jail. Dawn, legally the person has to be missing from where a family members says that they should be.
How has life changed for the people still there since it was exposed? Or at least what have you heard about it? I have the strangest reaction reading those names.
Then I recognized the name Aron Mason. His mom a classical violinist and I started out at a little ole mission in Richardson, Texas. We trained as auditors together.
I remember when Aron was born and I remember him as a sweet little boy. One never knows who these people would be or who they really are until they get out of this mind-fuck of a cult. Unfortunately from my experience with Aaron Mason, the int base sea org turned him into a nasty little wannabe bully of a fellow.
A real snot, very holier than thou. Turns into a matter of personal survival. Then they forget who they are acting it out on—like someone very senior to themselves. Very unfortunate. And one never knows what a good person any of those folks would have really been had they not joined the suppressive sea org at any level, especially at the int base.
At least if you remained just a public church member and never joined a staff, you could get the heck out a lot easier. Such a shame a place like this is allowed to continue on existing. Your email address will not be published.
And that for periods, the electricity would be cut to the building, leaving its occupants to roast in close-toC heat. Mike Rinder, another escapee told The Tampa Bay Times , of being hounded into bizarre confessions: "The 50 people there are all screaming at me, telling me I've got to confess — I've done that, why don't I just admit it?
I stole money, I had affairs — people would just literally dream up bullshit and start screaming it out, and then the mob goes crazy: 'Oh yeah, it must have been that! Tom De Vocht, who was also in The Hole, claimed that imprisonment would make people "wild and out of control: "I punched somebody.
Everybody was punched. And screaming and yelling. It just got like, 'What the hell is going on here? But he felt it was a case of eat-or-be-eaten: "If I don't attack I'm going to be attacked. It's a survival instinct in a weird situation that no one should be in. Others were reportedly forced to crawl on their bare knees for hours, the paper reported, until their skin was raw.
Cook ultimately escaped after she was withdrawn from The Hole to assist with a major church event. The moment she and her husband were left unsupervised, they fled in a rental car.
Leading up to the order, former members said they noticed Miscavige was extremely agitated and paranoid that there was a plot to overthrow him. The executives were reportedly corralled into two double-wide trailers, which then served as the office space for the International wing of Scientology. International President Heber Jentzsch was among them. Many ended up spending months to years living in those trailers, according to accounts. Several people who were held there say the Hole's numbers swelled to as many as people.
The trailer space morphed from being known as the International office to the "A to E Room," named after the church's confessional process, the A to E steps.
It was then the "SP Hole. Ultimately "SP Hole" was shortened to "the Hole. The Hole quickly grew into a detention center for high-ranking members who displeased David Miscavige, former members have said.
Mike Rinder said he and the or so others being held in the Hole had to eat "slop" and that they weren't able to come and go as they pleased. In "Going Clear," former Scientology executives describe being forced to play a game of musical chairs against each other, in which only the last person sitting would get to stay in Scientology. The others would be kicked out and not allowed to see or speak with their family members in Scientology again.
It was his successor, David Miscavage, who created it. Facts about the Hole are scarce, but rumors abound. Here's what we do know. In December , devoted Scientologist Lisa McPherson died in the back of a van full of fellow believers.
A lengthy court battle followed in which the Church of Scientology was charged with felony counts in a criminal case and McPherson's family filed a civil wrongful death lawsuit.
It was a media frenzy, bringing an unprecedented level of scrutiny to the whole organization. However, after alleged legal strong-arming of witnesses and medical experts, the church escaped nearly unscathed in The criminal charges were dropped and the lawsuit was settled.
But leader Miscavige was apparently unhappy with the work of high-ranking executives within the organization leading up to and during the investigation.
He subsequently rounded up about 50 of these executives and then held them captive in a building for three days before moving them to a small cluster of buildings - which would later be called "the Hole" - in the Gold Base compound the international Scientology headquarters in Riverside County, CA.
That is where details of their individual fates become hauntingly scarce, though rumors of forced confessions, beatings, and living in overcrowded quarters for extended periods of time exist. Several former Scientologists have defected from the Hole and reported the conditions there, so while stories are scarce, there is some confirmation of what goes on within the compound.
Though not officially involuntary, most people confined to the Hole do not have the choice to leave. Mark Rathbun famously stayed in the Hole for four days before leaving - he claims his friend Tom De Vocht who was also staying there was so badly beaten he refused to stay. Later, De Vocht also defected by climbing over the fence to the compound after guards refused to let him leave through the gate. By all eyewitness accounts, a combination of mental coercion and manipulation are keys to Scientology's cover.
Imagine being crammed into a small space with more than people, exhausted from a day of cruel and unusual punishments, trying to stake out a scrap of floor space to rest before the next round of punishments. That's what the Hole is like. Quarters there are close, to say the least. Above you. Below you.