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Download Free PDF. Roland Barthes and the conception of aesthetic experience. Liv Hausken. A short summary of this paper. Download Download PDF. Translate PDF. Palle Schantz Lauridsen There is something in the works of Roland Barthes that has always puzzled me. Besides all his writings on structuralism and semiotics he is searching for something which "appears to extend outside culture, knowledge, information" p. It "cannot be described" and "will not succeed in existing, in entering the critic's metalanguage" p.

The most well known text on this matter is probably his article "The third meaning" [] , from where the quotations above originate. As the title suggests, this phenomenon, or whatever we should call it, is labelled "the third meaning", referring to something transgressing the well known two levelled model in French semiotics as inherited from structural linguistics: the informational level and the symbolic level. The first level is that of information and communication, subjected to what Barthes calls a first semiotics, while the second level is that of signification, of symbolism which needs "a semiotic more highly developed than the first, a second or neo- semiotics, open no longer to the science of the message but to the sciences of the symbol psychoanalysis, economy, dramaturgy.

These two levels of meaning can be compared to what Barthes in the well-known article "Rhetoric of the image" refers to as denotation and connotation. However, according to Barthes this is not all. I do not know what its signified is, at least I am unable to give it a name, but I can clearly see the traits, the signifying accidents of which this - consequently incomplete - sign is composed [ This third meaning is "the one 'too many', the supplement that my intellection cannot succeed in absorbing, at once persistent and fleeting, smooth and elusive [ He proposes to call this third meaning "the obtuse meaning" as opposed to "the obvious meaning" which comprises both the two first levels of meaning.

As always with Barthes, he chooses the word "obtuse" with a nonchalant reference to the more or less uncertain sport of etymology: "The word springs readily to mind and, miracle, when its etymology is unfolded, it already provides us with a theory of the supplementary meaning.

Obtusus means that which is blunted, rounded in form" p. He metaphorically explains this aspect of the word by referring to his experience of the Eisenstein stills: "Are not the traits which I indicated [ Do they not give the obvious signified a kind of difficulty prehensible roundness, cause my reading to slip?

He proceeds to unfold the meaning of the word obtuse with reference to the technical definition in the dictionary, that is: "An obtuse angle is greater than a right angle [ I even accept for the obtuse meaning the word's pejorative connotation" p.

Indifferent to moral or aesthetic categories the trivial, the futile, the false, the pastiche , it is on the side of the carnival" p. It might be possible to think of the entire body of Barthes' work as existing between the polar opposites of L'obvie et l'obtus, as one of the collections of his essays is called And the same is presumably the case for "the obtuse meaning" in his ten - year - older article on Eisenstein's stills where he stresses that, "the obtuse meaning is not situated structurally, a semantologist would not agree as to its objective existence" p.

In all these texts and several others he uses different terms, or words, or metaphors to grasp, or try to grasp, what always seems to resist being grasped. His chosen metaphors are always closely connected to an experience of a particular medium, a particular materiality, a particular cultural phenomenon that matters for Barthes as a human being. Barthes explored diverse cultural spheres as semiotic systems and studied the relationship between language and authority.

Garage publishing program in collaboration with Ad Marginem Press. Minima Series. Subscribe to our mailing list and get the latest news from Garage. It becomes that configuration, that stage, whose false limits multiply the signifier's permutational play, that vast trace which, by difference, compels what SME himself calls a vertical reading, that false order which permits the turning of the pure series, the aleatory combination chance is crude, a signifier on the cheap and the attainment of a structuration which slips away from the inside.

In other words, the third meaning structures the film differently without - at least in SME - subverting the story and for this reason, perhaps, it is at the level of the third meaning, and at that level alone, that the 'filmic' finally emerges. The filmic is that in the film which cannot be described, the representation which cannot be represented.

The filmic begins only where language and metalanguage end. Everything that can be said about Ivan or Potemkin can be said of a written text entitled Ivan the Terrible or Battleship Potemkin except this, the obtuse meaning; I can gloss everything in Euphrosyne, except the obtuse quality of her face.

The filmic, then, lies precisely here, in that region where articulated language is no longer more than approximative and where another language begins whose science, therefore, cannot be linguistics, soon discarded like a booster rocket. Nor is it surprising that the filmic can only be located after having - analytically - gone across the 'essential', the 'depth' and the 'complexity' of the cinematic work; all those riches which are merely those of articulated language, 'with which we constitute the work and believe we exhaust it.

The filmic is not the same as the film, is as far removed from the film as the novelistic is from the novel I can write in the novelistic without ever writing novels. The still. Which is why to a certain extent the extent of our theoretical fumblings the filmic, very paradoxically, cannot be grasped in the film 'in situation', 'in movement', 'in its natural state', but only in that major artefact, the still.

I at first ascribed this taste for stills to my lack of cinematic culture, to my resistance to film; I thought of myself as like those children who prefer the pictures to the text, or like those clients who, unable to attain the adult possession of objects because too expensive , are content to derive pleasure from looking at a choice of samples or a department store catalogue. The still offers us the inside of the fragment. It is not a specimen chemically extracted 'from the substance of the film, but rather the trace of a superior distribution of traits of which the film as experienced in its animated flow would give no more than.

The still, then, is the fragment of a second text whose existence never exceeds the fragment; film and still find themselves in a palimpsest relationship without it being possible to say that one is on top of the other or that one is extracted from the other. For written texts, unless they are very conventional, totally committed to logico-temporal order, reading time is free; for film, this is not so, since the image cannot go faster or slower without losing its perceptual figure.

The still, by instituting a reading that is at once instantaneous and vertical, scorns logical time which is only an operational time ; it teaches us how to dissociate the technical constraint from what is the specific filmic and which is the 'indescribable' meaning. Perhaps it was the reading of this other text here in stills that SME called for when he said that a film is not simply to be seen and heard but to be scrutinized and listened to attentively.

This seeing and this hearing are obviously not the postulation of some simple need to apply the mind that would be banal, a pious wish but rather a veritable mutation of reading and its object, text or film - which is a crucial problem of our time. In the classical paradigm of the five senses, the third sense is hearing first in importance in the Middle Ages. Research notes on some Eisenstein stills Here is an image from Ivan the Terrible I : two courtiers, two adjuvants, two supernumeraries it matters little if I am unable to remember the details of the story exactly are raining down gold over the young czar's head.

The obvious meaning A few words with regard to the o bvious meaning, even though it is not the object of this study. The obtuse meaning I first had the conviction of the obtuse meaning with image V. Thus in image V : Mouth drawn, eyes shut squinting, Headscarf low over forehead, She weeps. The still Which is why to a certain extent the extent of our theoretical fumblings the filmic, very paradoxically, cannot be grasped in the film 'in situation', 'in movement', 'in its natural state', but only in that major artefact, the still.

There are other 'arts' which combine still or at least drawing and story, diegesis — namely the photo-novel and the comic-strip. I am convinced that these 'arts', born in the lower depths of high culture, possess theoretical qualifications and present a new signifier related to the obtuse meaning.

Subscrever: Enviar feedback Atom. I felt that the penetrating feature—disturbing as a guest who insists on remaining, unwanted, silent—must be located in the area of the forehead: the kerchief had something to do with it. Yet in image VI the obtuse meaning vanishes, there is no more than a message of grief. The obtuse meaning, then, has something to do with disguise.

An actor disguises himself twice over once as actor in the anecdote, once as actor in the dramaturgy , without the one disguise destroying the other; an overlap of meanings which permits the earlier one to subsist, as in a geological formation, to say the contrary without renouncing the thing contradicted: Brecht would have enjoyed this dramatic dialectic! What we see, in image VII, is the reattachment, hence the previous detachment, of the beard perpendicular to the chin.

The populism of the wool scarf the obvious meaning stops at the chignon; here is where the fetish begins, the hank of hair, a kind of non-negating mockery of the expression. The entire obtuse meaning its power to disturb functions in the excessive mass of hair.

Consider another chignon that of the woman in image IX ; it contradicts the tiny raised fist, atrophies it without this reduction having the slightest symbolic intellectual value. Prolonged by ringlets, drawing the face in the direction of an ovine model, it gives the woman something touching as a certain generous stupidity can be touching , or even something sensitive.

These outdated words—they are, in fact, anything but political or revolutionary, adjectives of a certain mystification—must nonetheless be taken into account.

I believe that the obtuse meaning sustains a certain emotion. This emotion, as part of the disguise, is never viscous; it is an emotion which simply designates what is loved, what is to be defended; it is an emotion-as-value, an evaluation.

Beauty can doubtless function as an obtuse meaning. There is, in the obtuse meaning, an eroticism which includes the opposite of the beautiful and even what is external to such opposition, i. To continue if these examples suffice to infer some more theoretical remarks , the obtuse meaning is not in the language—not even the language of symbols. Remove it and communication and signification remain, circulate, pass. There may be a certain constant factor of the Eisensteinian obtuse meaning, but then this already constitutes a thematic use of language, an idiolect, and this idiolect is provisional simply defined by a critic who writes a book on Eisenstein.

In other words, the obtuse meaning is not structurally situated; a semanticist would not agree as to its objective existence. But what is objective? The same uncertainty develops when I must describe the obtuse meaning, when I must give some notion of its direction, its departure. The obtuse meaning is a signifier without a signified, whence the difficulty in giving it a name.

My reading remains suspended between the image and its description, between definition and approximation. If I cannot describe the obtuse meaning, that is because, contrary to the obvious meaning, it copies nothing.

How describe that which represents nothing? So that if, confronting these images, we remain, you and I, on the level of articulate language—i.